1 00:00:10,700 --> 00:00:07,909 in this hot gas clip we talked about a 2 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:10,710 case from the newest missing for one one 3 00:00:16,700 --> 00:00:13,410 book hunters if you don't like cursing 4 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:16,710 and explicit content then this segment 5 00:00:20,689 --> 00:00:18,930 is not for you we curse a lot and go 6 00:00:23,420 --> 00:00:20,699 into some pretty graphic detail about 7 00:00:27,050 --> 00:00:23,430 what could be going on with the missing 8 00:00:29,060 --> 00:00:27,060 for one one phenomenon also we've been 9 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:29,070 drinking a little bit too little tipsy 10 00:00:34,580 --> 00:00:32,250 or full podcast episodes check out the 11 00:00:37,220 --> 00:00:34,590 description below and with all that 12 00:00:39,709 --> 00:00:37,230 being said here is the missing four one 13 00:00:42,020 --> 00:00:39,719 one segment thanks for listening I'll 14 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:42,030 talk to you later so I got the newest 15 00:00:47,510 --> 00:00:44,370 missing four in one book did you get it 16 00:00:49,160 --> 00:00:47,520 Mike not yet no this is ridiculous I 17 00:00:50,299 --> 00:00:49,170 send it to you you actually sent me a 18 00:00:53,299 --> 00:00:50,309 book I haven't got it yet 19 00:00:55,510 --> 00:00:53,309 I got mine you're not that far away no 20 00:00:59,720 --> 00:00:55,520 you're you're an apartment e correct 21 00:01:02,840 --> 00:00:59,730 that's correct yeah that's ridiculous 22 00:01:05,870 --> 00:01:02,850 she came with a u.s. mail umm did not 23 00:01:08,289 --> 00:01:05,880 get it yet no um all fair I'll give my 24 00:01:10,789 --> 00:01:08,299 exact address but I'm sure you have it 25 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:10,799 yeah text it to me just so I can be US 26 00:01:13,969 --> 00:01:12,570 not ok it's not hard to figure out know 27 00:01:14,899 --> 00:01:13,979 someone around here got it and like with 28 00:01:16,850 --> 00:01:14,909 it what is this 29 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:16,860 someone probably one of my neighbors got 30 00:01:21,859 --> 00:01:18,090 this and like what is all this stuff 31 00:01:23,330 --> 00:01:21,869 what is all this stuff people are 32 00:01:25,670 --> 00:01:23,340 disappearing and this this is the 33 00:01:27,350 --> 00:01:25,680 missing forward one about hunters right 34 00:01:29,569 --> 00:01:27,360 correct this one's about hunters that 35 00:01:31,819 --> 00:01:29,579 just came out I believe month or two it 36 00:01:34,130 --> 00:01:31,829 might even been this month we have some 37 00:01:35,510 --> 00:01:34,140 YouTube segments on this and it's very 38 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:35,520 spirited discussion a lot of people 39 00:01:39,740 --> 00:01:38,850 wanted us to die and calling it calling 40 00:01:42,889 --> 00:01:39,750 shitbags 41 00:01:45,740 --> 00:01:42,899 but what we cover in there are real 42 00:01:47,510 --> 00:01:45,750 missing for one one cases we joke around 43 00:01:49,370 --> 00:01:47,520 have a good time with it but it's real 44 00:01:53,859 --> 00:01:49,380 people are really going missing people 45 00:01:58,550 --> 00:01:56,630 yeah there's really no concrete 46 00:02:00,170 --> 00:01:58,560 explanation I mean sometimes you can 47 00:02:03,350 --> 00:02:00,180 chalk it up just people just getting 48 00:02:05,389 --> 00:02:03,360 lost and dying of exposure but I mean 49 00:02:06,620 --> 00:02:05,399 not a lot of these I'm about 30 pages in 50 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:06,630 if I only had this for about a day 51 00:02:11,150 --> 00:02:08,250 probably get it right a little bit more 52 00:02:12,980 --> 00:02:11,160 but I mean the first two 53 00:02:15,020 --> 00:02:12,990 cases that I read will tube-like there 54 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:15,030 was a law in Arizona there was a family 55 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:16,770 out mermaid father was going to go 56 00:02:20,090 --> 00:02:18,690 hunting they made a camp this little 57 00:02:23,660 --> 00:02:20,100 five year old kid that was described as 58 00:02:26,780 --> 00:02:23,670 frail goes missing and so they searched 59 00:02:28,310 --> 00:02:26,790 for him for weeks and weeks and you know 60 00:02:32,510 --> 00:02:28,320 they have hair support and all that kind 61 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:32,520 of fun stuff in this is 1970s and they 62 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:35,130 eventually find this kid about I've been 63 00:02:40,640 --> 00:02:38,250 3 like 3,000 feet up off the trail on 64 00:02:42,590 --> 00:02:40,650 this hike this wilderness area whereas 65 00:02:44,900 --> 00:02:42,600 between they camped in a valley but this 66 00:02:47,420 --> 00:02:44,910 kid was up on a mountain like 3,000 feet 67 00:02:49,370 --> 00:02:47,430 didn't have any shoes lost his coat 68 00:02:52,550 --> 00:02:49,380 didn't have his coat on him it was like 69 00:02:55,010 --> 00:02:52,560 30 degrees at night there and no one has 70 00:02:58,250 --> 00:02:55,020 any explanation for because all I guess 71 00:03:00,290 --> 00:02:58,260 rescue methods or or just lost kids 72 00:03:02,990 --> 00:03:00,300 psychology important little kids walk 73 00:03:06,020 --> 00:03:03,000 downhill yeah because that's the easiest 74 00:03:07,670 --> 00:03:06,030 route taken correct and apparently for 75 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:07,680 being and not adventurous it was parents 76 00:03:11,060 --> 00:03:09,570 at frail kid I believe he has found 77 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:11,070 several miles away from their campsite 78 00:03:16,460 --> 00:03:14,010 or anybody new to the missing four one 79 00:03:18,650 --> 00:03:16,470 one phenomenon we which is what we've 80 00:03:20,330 --> 00:03:18,660 talked about for quite a number shows 81 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:20,340 and over probably probably past two 82 00:03:26,030 --> 00:03:23,610 years is that people go missing in the 83 00:03:27,050 --> 00:03:26,040 woodland areas the big national parks 84 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:27,060 are just out in the middle of nowhere 85 00:03:32,750 --> 00:03:30,450 and sometimes it's explicitly explicable 86 00:03:34,699 --> 00:03:32,760 and but when sometimes when these bodies 87 00:03:36,860 --> 00:03:34,709 are found they're found with no shoes on 88 00:03:41,090 --> 00:03:36,870 that is a telltale sign naked from the 89 00:03:45,140 --> 00:03:41,100 waist down or weird [\h__\h] so this kid was 90 00:03:47,330 --> 00:03:45,150 frail and the father and the family just 91 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:47,340 decide I'm taking on the wilderness how 92 00:03:51,430 --> 00:03:49,770 did they go like how this kid get away 93 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:51,440 from their sight how to get out of a 94 00:03:57,229 --> 00:03:54,810 lay-by in the in the canyon area where 95 00:04:00,380 --> 00:03:57,239 they set up camp by the dry creek bed or 96 00:04:01,820 --> 00:04:00,390 something but on the case I've wanted to 97 00:04:03,949 --> 00:04:01,830 read oh there's one example I guess he 98 00:04:05,479 --> 00:04:03,959 made a book about hunters because I'm 99 00:04:07,010 --> 00:04:05,489 like you know most people go out hiking 100 00:04:08,479 --> 00:04:07,020 you know the hunters has a lot of 101 00:04:11,210 --> 00:04:08,489 experience out in the wilderness a lot 102 00:04:14,270 --> 00:04:11,220 experience alone got guns dude if guns 103 00:04:18,159 --> 00:04:14,280 are tracking stuff they have some 104 00:04:20,690 --> 00:04:18,169 survival knowledge under their belt I 105 00:04:22,820 --> 00:04:20,700 guess even more means igni I hit a gun 106 00:04:24,650 --> 00:04:22,830 you were lost you wanted people to try 107 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:24,660 to find you maybe crack off around after 108 00:04:28,879 --> 00:04:24,810 you 109 00:04:31,610 --> 00:04:28,889 crack off a few rounds and make it seem 110 00:04:33,980 --> 00:04:31,620 like panic fire if you if your I'm 111 00:04:35,810 --> 00:04:33,990 assuming if you're a hunter you take out 112 00:04:37,430 --> 00:04:35,820 multiple rounds with you you have a 113 00:04:40,100 --> 00:04:37,440 couple clips of ammunition or magazines 114 00:04:41,750 --> 00:04:40,110 and you can probably take you probably 115 00:04:44,300 --> 00:04:41,760 have at least 20 rounds of ammunition 116 00:04:46,790 --> 00:04:44,310 with you you crack off five in a row 117 00:04:50,210 --> 00:04:46,800 people are going to take notice or think 118 00:04:51,620 --> 00:04:50,220 you're really really bad shot yes are 119 00:04:54,220 --> 00:04:51,630 you shooting it there's a ton of deer 120 00:04:58,070 --> 00:04:54,230 charging you yeah 121 00:04:59,780 --> 00:04:58,080 entire family of Risley bears to come 122 00:05:03,890 --> 00:04:59,790 down I took it down a family 123 00:05:06,020 --> 00:05:03,900 Tigers bear one shot not good but yeah 124 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:06,030 so I mean I haven't got his overarching 125 00:05:11,510 --> 00:05:08,610 theme yet but I mean I got the only 126 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:11,520 likes 270 more pages to cover maybe I'll 127 00:05:17,540 --> 00:05:15,090 get to get to that but there was a good 128 00:05:20,420 --> 00:05:17,550 case that I read is from this guy this 129 00:05:21,980 --> 00:05:20,430 isn't actual at Mount San Bernardino in 130 00:05:25,969 --> 00:05:21,990 California named the guys name is 131 00:05:29,870 --> 00:05:25,979 Ellison flowers looks like this occurred 132 00:05:31,850 --> 00:05:29,880 in September 23rd 1958 this is shouldn't 133 00:05:35,810 --> 00:05:31,860 take too long to read but it's a goodie 134 00:05:38,230 --> 00:05:35,820 okay I can skip the first two paragraphs 135 00:05:40,909 --> 00:05:38,240 he's talking about his other books so 136 00:05:42,980 --> 00:05:40,919 let's talk about similar cases so he 137 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:42,990 said the story goes here 26 year old 138 00:05:47,510 --> 00:05:45,050 hunter that owned a gas station on 139 00:05:49,820 --> 00:05:47,520 Waterman Avenue in Highland California 140 00:05:51,290 --> 00:05:49,830 he called his wife on September 23rd 141 00:05:54,469 --> 00:05:51,300 from the gas station say that he was 142 00:05:56,540 --> 00:05:54,479 driving up to the area of Jenks Lake and 143 00:05:58,850 --> 00:05:56,550 at that time it was part of the san 144 00:06:00,920 --> 00:05:58,860 gregorio wilderness really now it's part 145 00:06:03,650 --> 00:06:00,930 of San Bernardino Mountain State Park or 146 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:03,660 something it wasn't a state parks you 147 00:06:09,379 --> 00:06:06,210 well either way that's where he was that 148 00:06:11,180 --> 00:06:09,389 you stated that he'd leave in the early 149 00:06:12,020 --> 00:06:11,190 afternoon to be back in time to close 150 00:06:13,730 --> 00:06:12,030 the gas station 151 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:13,740 Ellison flowers a very experienced 152 00:06:20,090 --> 00:06:16,410 outdoorsman and had social skills to run 153 00:06:22,550 --> 00:06:20,100 a profitable service station the drive 154 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:22,560 for Ellison wasn't extremely lengthy but 155 00:06:27,170 --> 00:06:24,810 it was on a winding dirt road up the 156 00:06:30,860 --> 00:06:27,180 side of a mountain as of 11 o'clock 157 00:06:32,300 --> 00:06:30,870 closing time stood methane's 11 p.m. was 158 00:06:35,260 --> 00:06:32,310 looming the attendant called his wife 159 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:35,270 Dolores and asked where Ellison was 160 00:06:37,999 --> 00:06:37,770 Dolores was surprised that he wasn't 161 00:06:40,339 --> 00:06:38,009 there 162 00:06:42,379 --> 00:06:40,349 because he's extremely liable reliable 163 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:42,389 person she went to the station and close 164 00:06:47,389 --> 00:06:43,770 the business herself and went home 165 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:47,399 hoping to find her husband there he told 166 00:06:52,189 --> 00:06:49,050 her he'd be back at the station no later 167 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:52,199 than 10:30 so this is beyond then Nelson 168 00:06:57,469 --> 00:06:53,490 didn't arrive home following morning she 169 00:07:00,109 --> 00:06:57,479 his wife called the police make sense 170 00:07:02,029 --> 00:07:00,119 yeah I mean person who comes home after 171 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:02,039 closing a business every night 172 00:07:06,139 --> 00:07:04,770 you'd be pretty concerned and he said 173 00:07:08,540 --> 00:07:06,149 he'd be back that night but half hour 174 00:07:10,249 --> 00:07:08,550 before closed does it go into if this 175 00:07:11,809 --> 00:07:10,259 guy's a big Boozer do you like to go out 176 00:07:14,420 --> 00:07:11,819 and get hammered at the bar and do some 177 00:07:16,510 --> 00:07:14,430 karaoke or any talk that no that wasn't 178 00:07:18,950 --> 00:07:16,520 mentioned in here okay 179 00:07:22,670 --> 00:07:18,960 nothing to buy genital size either good 180 00:07:24,260 --> 00:07:22,680 guy wondering I am but okay so this the 181 00:07:26,179 --> 00:07:24,270 sheriff sent up a unit onto the mountain 182 00:07:28,339 --> 00:07:26,189 to find Ellison's sedan when I drove a 183 00:07:32,059 --> 00:07:28,349 sedan down the mountain so Ford or 184 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:32,069 whatever and they knocked this sorry now 185 00:07:36,709 --> 00:07:34,610 on October 2nd and 9th in same year 1958 186 00:07:39,290 --> 00:07:36,719 in from an article in the San Bernardino 187 00:07:40,969 --> 00:07:39,300 County Sun had this information on the 188 00:07:42,409 --> 00:07:40,979 weather apparently the first day he was 189 00:07:43,969 --> 00:07:42,419 reported missing bad weather hampered 190 00:07:46,459 --> 00:07:43,979 the search for him but the second day 191 00:07:48,139 --> 00:07:46,469 was a full-scale search is launched so 192 00:07:49,909 --> 00:07:48,149 we have that classic kind of the first 193 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:49,919 data search starts weather goes this 194 00:07:54,709 --> 00:07:52,050 [\h__\h] yeah and that is another one of 195 00:07:57,709 --> 00:07:54,719 these hallmark missing for one one cases 196 00:07:59,119 --> 00:07:57,719 is that you're absolutely right weather 197 00:08:01,999 --> 00:07:59,129 goes to [\h__\h] 198 00:08:05,449 --> 00:08:02,009 it's almost clockwork at a certain point 199 00:08:07,730 --> 00:08:05,459 where a person goes missing in in order 200 00:08:09,860 --> 00:08:07,740 let's just go ahead and hype I thought 201 00:08:12,889 --> 00:08:09,870 that would say there is some omniscient 202 00:08:14,509 --> 00:08:12,899 being and say okay we want to cover any 203 00:08:16,610 --> 00:08:14,519 traces that we took this person let's 204 00:08:19,129 --> 00:08:16,620 create some bad weather for people to 205 00:08:21,949 --> 00:08:19,139 make it really dumb tough for them to 206 00:08:23,629 --> 00:08:21,959 discover a dead body that's what it 207 00:08:25,189 --> 00:08:23,639 seems like as Edison point I was like 208 00:08:31,399 --> 00:08:25,199 you're covering their tracks 209 00:08:32,930 --> 00:08:31,409 yeah on purpose so yeah we launched them 210 00:08:35,409 --> 00:08:32,940 second day weather career they lost 211 00:08:37,219 --> 00:08:35,419 launched their full-scale search 212 00:08:38,509 --> 00:08:37,229 apparently some of the train out there 213 00:08:40,459 --> 00:08:38,519 some of the most rugged in Southern 214 00:08:42,860 --> 00:08:40,469 California at the peak of the surge 215 00:08:44,449 --> 00:08:42,870 there's more than 150 volunteers and 216 00:08:45,949 --> 00:08:44,459 professionals were scouring the region 217 00:08:48,439 --> 00:08:45,959 above Jenks Lake where he was supposed 218 00:08:49,670 --> 00:08:48,449 to be looking for him deputies found his 219 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:49,680 vehicle on 220 00:08:54,079 --> 00:08:52,290 out he'll hoop yeah yeah poop out like 221 00:08:56,299 --> 00:08:54,089 I'm all pooped out but its poop out 222 00:08:59,119 --> 00:08:56,309 he'll he initially centered their 223 00:09:00,730 --> 00:08:59,129 efforts around there um the you could 224 00:09:06,710 --> 00:09:00,740 Yucaipa 225 00:09:08,660 --> 00:09:06,720 that's a town youkai up a substation for 226 00:09:10,730 --> 00:09:08,670 the sheriff I was heading the effort to 227 00:09:14,749 --> 00:09:10,740 locate the hunter and had allocated over 228 00:09:16,460 --> 00:09:14,759 20 deputies another 150 volunteers the 229 00:09:18,889 --> 00:09:16,470 articles of the time stated that the 230 00:09:21,319 --> 00:09:18,899 that rain sleet in fall camp researchers 231 00:09:24,769 --> 00:09:21,329 off and on during the search hunt 232 00:09:26,419 --> 00:09:24,779 desertion parties Delores told deputies 233 00:09:28,900 --> 00:09:26,429 it also was extremely familiar with the 234 00:09:31,220 --> 00:09:28,910 area and as he hunted it for many years 235 00:09:33,259 --> 00:09:31,230 formal searches for Ellison went on for 236 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:33,269 over a month the effort included 50 237 00:09:37,809 --> 00:09:35,730 Marines from the nearby niba Marine base 238 00:09:40,730 --> 00:09:37,819 sheriff's search and rescue bloodhounds 239 00:09:44,210 --> 00:09:40,740 the Sierra Madre rescue group and the 240 00:09:46,369 --> 00:09:44,220 u.s. Forest Service aircraft and they 241 00:09:48,889 --> 00:09:46,379 could not come up with anything so after 242 00:09:50,989 --> 00:09:48,899 almost two years had passed two hunting 243 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:50,999 seasons and nothing had been found and 244 00:09:52,819 --> 00:09:52,290 then something there's a break in the 245 00:09:56,749 --> 00:09:52,829 case 246 00:09:58,100 --> 00:09:56,759 and on started October 18th article 1960 247 00:10:00,230 --> 00:09:58,110 from the San Bernardino County Sun 248 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:00,240 described what a hunter found apparently 249 00:10:06,019 --> 00:10:03,689 third on Thursday James a Rasmussen 250 00:10:08,150 --> 00:10:06,029 Vegas of Panama the hunter was found who 251 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:08,160 found him was hunting the same area and 252 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:09,689 spotted a skeleton while making a wide 253 00:10:13,639 --> 00:10:11,490 sweep through his binoculars Rasmussen 254 00:10:15,889 --> 00:10:13,649 saw human remains in clothing about a 255 00:10:20,019 --> 00:10:15,899 hundred and fifty yards below a gigantic 256 00:10:22,999 --> 00:10:20,029 rock described by George Chen inton as 257 00:10:25,879 --> 00:10:23,009 described by George Genting must be the 258 00:10:27,439 --> 00:10:25,889 writer of the story as about two stories 259 00:10:29,660 --> 00:10:27,449 high about a two-story high rock his 260 00:10:31,460 --> 00:10:29,670 body was beneath I just believe the 261 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:31,470 victim fell from this rock sometime 262 00:10:36,110 --> 00:10:34,170 after his disappearance deputies 263 00:10:37,879 --> 00:10:36,120 confirmed it was Ellis Ellison they 264 00:10:40,429 --> 00:10:37,889 found his wallet rifle and his US Army 265 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:40,439 registration card the rescuer stated 266 00:10:43,309 --> 00:10:41,970 that it took them three hours to just 267 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:43,319 reach the body from where Ellison in a 268 00:10:49,549 --> 00:10:46,290 practice vehicle one article summarizes 269 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:49,559 or surmises that he must be sorry must 270 00:10:54,109 --> 00:10:51,569 have been confronted with a sudden 271 00:10:56,660 --> 00:10:54,119 snowstorm same articles I quoted above 272 00:10:58,730 --> 00:10:56,670 so some San Bernardino County Sun and 273 00:11:00,290 --> 00:10:58,740 the theory from a law enforcement that 274 00:11:03,380 --> 00:11:00,300 he died of exposure 275 00:11:07,370 --> 00:11:03,390 of course the likely story again another 276 00:11:08,990 --> 00:11:07,380 this is another kind of throw away they 277 00:11:13,310 --> 00:11:09,000 always claim these people died of 278 00:11:15,230 --> 00:11:13,320 exposure right yeah then it's exposure 279 00:11:17,300 --> 00:11:15,240 back yes that's the most common ones 280 00:11:18,740 --> 00:11:17,310 they find except for um there's some get 281 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:18,750 red in the western US murder 282 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:20,370 investigation was launched about one of 283 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:22,770 them on my crater lake but here are 284 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:24,330 places thoughts on it which are pretty 285 00:11:27,980 --> 00:11:26,370 interesting so he said let's think clear 286 00:11:30,110 --> 00:11:27,990 carefully about the evidence we were 287 00:11:31,610 --> 00:11:30,120 given a three week search by almost two 288 00:11:33,710 --> 00:11:31,620 hundred Marines deputies aircraft and 289 00:11:35,630 --> 00:11:33,720 volunteers turns up nothing bloodhounds 290 00:11:36,500 --> 00:11:35,640 find nothing a common commonality in 291 00:11:39,260 --> 00:11:36,510 almost every story 292 00:11:40,910 --> 00:11:39,270 he's chronicled Elson is later found at 293 00:11:42,830 --> 00:11:40,920 the bottom of a two-story high rock from 294 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:42,840 which people believe he fell if they 295 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:46,770 believed he died from exposure he said 296 00:11:49,700 --> 00:11:47,850 he wants to know where any broken bones 297 00:11:51,290 --> 00:11:49,710 identified when a body is next to a 298 00:11:54,110 --> 00:11:51,300 solid granite wall the odors and sent 299 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:54,120 the body are fairly concentrated from 300 00:11:56,180 --> 00:11:55,410 the wall yet the bloodhounds were able 301 00:11:58,760 --> 00:11:56,190 to get nothing 302 00:12:01,010 --> 00:11:58,770 how could 102 years after the event see 303 00:12:03,230 --> 00:12:01,020 a body for 150 yards away yet a plethora 304 00:12:05,780 --> 00:12:03,240 of searchers aircraft canines missed it 305 00:12:07,310 --> 00:12:05,790 this exact snare has been uh he said a 306 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:07,320 replicated time and time again in many 307 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:09,330 of his books allison was found the exact 308 00:12:14,390 --> 00:12:12,450 same search area what she was lost the 309 00:12:16,310 --> 00:12:14,400 one important fact among the evidence is 310 00:12:18,620 --> 00:12:16,320 in this event is the location of the 311 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:18,630 body allison was a three-hour hike from 312 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:21,210 his car he promised me back at the 313 00:12:25,340 --> 00:12:23,850 station no later than 10:30 p.m. he left 314 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:25,350 the station early afternoon it made the 315 00:12:30,650 --> 00:12:27,930 90 to 120 minute drive an hour and a 316 00:12:32,390 --> 00:12:30,660 half to two hour drive to the site and 317 00:12:33,830 --> 00:12:32,400 then he did the hike if he arrived the 318 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:33,840 site at 2:00 p.m. 319 00:12:38,570 --> 00:12:36,210 hike three hours it was dark by then 320 00:12:40,780 --> 00:12:38,580 we're getting dark by then there's no 321 00:12:42,950 --> 00:12:40,790 way he would he was hiking in the dark 322 00:12:44,810 --> 00:12:42,960 he was an experienced hunter who knew 323 00:12:46,870 --> 00:12:44,820 the area well and knew the distances 324 00:12:49,490 --> 00:12:46,880 even if he'd got into the area at noon 325 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:49,500 he had to find a deer she didn't shoot 326 00:12:53,540 --> 00:12:50,970 the deer and gut it and then he had to 327 00:12:55,850 --> 00:12:53,550 haul it back out of back to his car to 328 00:12:57,890 --> 00:12:55,860 get home and to be able to get home by 329 00:12:59,450 --> 00:12:57,900 10:30 do all that to get home by 10:30 330 00:13:01,040 --> 00:12:59,460 which apparently isn't money like he 331 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:01,050 said it's a monumental task for the time 332 00:13:05,290 --> 00:13:02,730 that was allotted to him see pretty 333 00:13:07,850 --> 00:13:05,300 people got it people have done it before 334 00:13:09,560 --> 00:13:07,860 yes if he gets here at two hikes three 335 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:09,570 hours it's five you pretty much have to 336 00:13:13,220 --> 00:13:11,250 shoot and kill a deer there and gun to 337 00:13:13,879 --> 00:13:13,230 those could take you okay I find it here 338 00:13:15,109 --> 00:13:13,889 let's just assume 339 00:13:18,229 --> 00:13:15,119 takes an hour to find it shoot another 340 00:13:19,609 --> 00:13:18,239 two hours you're here at 7:00 I mean he 341 00:13:21,079 --> 00:13:19,619 would be have to be the most luckiest 342 00:13:22,759 --> 00:13:21,089 day hunting never really get done 343 00:13:25,359 --> 00:13:22,769 fair enough going going out like three 344 00:13:28,309 --> 00:13:25,369 hours that way from his car fair enough 345 00:13:30,289 --> 00:13:28,319 so he said mean questions that should be 346 00:13:32,119 --> 00:13:30,299 I guess asked for this case why was it 347 00:13:34,129 --> 00:13:32,129 Ellison's body found by aircraft ground 348 00:13:36,139 --> 00:13:34,139 search crews and bloodhounds Allison 349 00:13:37,429 --> 00:13:36,149 knew his hunting area very well would he 350 00:13:38,749 --> 00:13:37,439 have fallen off the biggest rock in the 351 00:13:42,169 --> 00:13:38,759 area I thought it was a pretty good 352 00:13:44,419 --> 00:13:42,179 point too mmm if Allison fell two 353 00:13:46,009 --> 00:13:44,429 stories why didn't the fall kill him one 354 00:13:49,009 --> 00:13:46,019 article stated that Allison's rifle was 355 00:13:51,499 --> 00:13:49,019 found and one round was fired it was 356 00:13:53,929 --> 00:13:51,509 made it looked like he died that way or 357 00:13:55,819 --> 00:13:53,939 that yeah why wouldn't he have fired 358 00:13:57,739 --> 00:13:55,829 multiple rounds to alert sergers like we 359 00:13:59,599 --> 00:13:57,749 were talking about earlier bloodhounds 360 00:14:00,979 --> 00:13:59,609 he says don't care about politics or who 361 00:14:03,079 --> 00:14:00,989 they are searching for they love to do 362 00:14:03,769 --> 00:14:03,089 work why didn't they key in on the scent 363 00:14:06,889 --> 00:14:03,779 in the area 364 00:14:09,919 --> 00:14:06,899 so I have to take this conversation in a 365 00:14:13,369 --> 00:14:09,929 direction that if you're listening to 366 00:14:15,470 --> 00:14:13,379 this and you are a fan of missing for 367 00:14:17,150 --> 00:14:15,480 one one and this stuff I have to take 368 00:14:21,049 --> 00:14:17,160 this conversation in your direction is 369 00:14:26,659 --> 00:14:21,059 going to be very disturbing and explicit 370 00:14:29,059 --> 00:14:26,669 no sweet yeah so Jo um you don't believe 371 00:14:31,850 --> 00:14:29,069 in any of the ghosts Bigfoot paranormal 372 00:14:34,340 --> 00:14:31,860 stuff you've seen out of the co-hosts 373 00:14:38,049 --> 00:14:34,350 here myself Mike and clown baby Jo you 374 00:14:41,239 --> 00:14:38,059 seem to be the most skeptical of the 375 00:14:43,639 --> 00:14:41,249 paranormal people on this podcast yes 376 00:14:44,929 --> 00:14:43,649 the UFO thing the Bigfoot thing the 377 00:14:47,679 --> 00:14:44,939 ghost thing got it 378 00:14:51,109 --> 00:14:47,689 what are what would you say are the most 379 00:14:54,470 --> 00:14:51,119 driving biological factors for a 380 00:14:56,229 --> 00:14:54,480 sentient being ah let's just go ahead 381 00:15:02,479 --> 00:14:56,239 and say they have human intelligence 382 00:15:04,429 --> 00:15:02,489 what do people like to do hmm eat need 383 00:15:07,129 --> 00:15:04,439 shelter that okay I'm gonna give you a 384 00:15:08,689 --> 00:15:07,139 ring for that people like people love to 385 00:15:10,849 --> 00:15:08,699 eat and they will they want shelter 386 00:15:13,729 --> 00:15:10,859 let's go ahead and stick with eat you 387 00:15:15,949 --> 00:15:13,739 love the drinking needing water in with 388 00:15:18,619 --> 00:15:15,959 eating okay now putting water in their 389 00:15:20,869 --> 00:15:18,629 bodies okay food is good foods a good 390 00:15:22,579 --> 00:15:20,879 thing yeah right gonna eat what you want 391 00:15:25,850 --> 00:15:22,589 you are your bellies full what do you 392 00:15:27,350 --> 00:15:25,860 like to do uh have fun well how do 393 00:15:29,780 --> 00:15:27,360 people have fun 394 00:15:32,300 --> 00:15:29,790 masturbate yeah people like the [\h__\h] 395 00:15:35,870 --> 00:15:32,310 things yeah they they want to do that 396 00:15:38,170 --> 00:15:35,880 yeah do the nasty and then if you're 397 00:15:41,690 --> 00:15:38,180 sadistic enough and you're done 398 00:15:44,269 --> 00:15:41,700 what do people like to do that it's just 399 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:44,279 they kill or they could have you know 400 00:15:50,060 --> 00:15:47,450 they could [\h__\h] him to death 401 00:15:52,550 --> 00:15:50,070 so the conversation I might take to say 402 00:15:56,389 --> 00:15:52,560 that's how you guys covered it a couple 403 00:15:58,550 --> 00:15:56,399 shows ago he was [\h__\h] to death and 404 00:16:02,360 --> 00:15:58,560 then a pillow thrown so I would parallel 405 00:16:05,630 --> 00:16:02,370 this with a recent HBO series called 406 00:16:07,900 --> 00:16:05,640 West world okay I don't know if you've 407 00:16:10,490 --> 00:16:07,910 seen this yet Joe I love the show so 408 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:10,500 talked about it two weeks ago in West 409 00:16:15,949 --> 00:16:14,250 world it is a fictional kind of virtual 410 00:16:18,850 --> 00:16:15,959 reality kind of numbers route it's a 411 00:16:22,699 --> 00:16:18,860 real physical place that is occupied by 412 00:16:25,519 --> 00:16:22,709 almost semi sentient robots where humans 413 00:16:27,650 --> 00:16:25,529 can come in welcome kill them do their 414 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:27,660 adventures get all their throws out and 415 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:29,490 they can leave without no consequence 416 00:16:35,300 --> 00:16:32,970 but these sentient robots are learning 417 00:16:39,949 --> 00:16:35,310 and remembering every time an action is 418 00:16:42,139 --> 00:16:39,959 taking upon them and it kind of reminds 419 00:16:46,610 --> 00:16:42,149 me of this missing four-on-one stuff 420 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:46,620 where we the humans are to be used and 421 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:50,130 abused by a higher powers will for 422 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:52,050 whatever we want we can be [\h__\h] to 423 00:16:57,920 --> 00:16:54,570 death we can be food and then killed and 424 00:16:59,540 --> 00:16:57,930 thrown in the snow and they can cover up 425 00:17:03,530 --> 00:16:59,550 their tracks as much as they want and 426 00:17:06,740 --> 00:17:03,540 that's that it seems like it seems like 427 00:17:09,110 --> 00:17:06,750 us we are living it we are in the West 428 00:17:11,270 --> 00:17:09,120 world and there's someone else [\h__\h] 429 00:17:15,020 --> 00:17:11,280 with us as they please 430 00:17:16,970 --> 00:17:15,030 a lot of it and a Bigfoot rape attack 431 00:17:18,949 --> 00:17:16,980 now I might talk about Bigfoot rape 432 00:17:21,350 --> 00:17:18,959 attack as I talk about some episodes ago 433 00:17:23,319 --> 00:17:21,360 there are various other permittee 434 00:17:26,030 --> 00:17:23,329 extraterrestrial who knows maybe 435 00:17:28,150 --> 00:17:26,040 tricksters it doesn't [\h__\h] matter 436 00:17:33,190 --> 00:17:28,160 it's as ridiculous 437 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:35,810 miss him in the Bigfoot yeah.he 438 00:17:48,590 --> 00:17:45,570 community I think I actually think this 439 00:17:50,570 --> 00:17:48,600 missing foreign one stuff is more akin 440 00:17:53,450 --> 00:17:50,580 to us being in a West world like 441 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:53,460 scenario than not at this point 442 00:17:57,950 --> 00:17:55,410 especially when you have confirmed 443 00:18:01,430 --> 00:17:57,960 reports with some of these missing for 444 00:18:04,850 --> 00:18:01,440 one people with their pants down which 445 00:18:06,590 --> 00:18:04,860 is a that's a sexual violation it when 446 00:18:09,050 --> 00:18:06,600 you're just missing clothes missing 447 00:18:10,730 --> 00:18:09,060 clothes in shoes off once you take your 448 00:18:16,130 --> 00:18:10,740 shoes off is very easy to the pants off 449 00:18:19,070 --> 00:18:16,140 trust me I know and it seems like there 450 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:19,080 is an unspoken sexuality or sexual 451 00:18:24,110 --> 00:18:22,050 component to this missing 4:01 stuff and 452 00:18:25,820 --> 00:18:24,120 it seems as though we are the livestock 453 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:25,830 when you go out into the woods where 454 00:18:31,130 --> 00:18:28,490 anything can happen [\h__\h] does happen and 455 00:18:35,990 --> 00:18:31,140 I'm starting to view it like that that 456 00:18:39,020 --> 00:18:36,000 we are the feeding in the [\h__\h] round for 457 00:18:42,890 --> 00:18:39,030 some higher power and we have no control 458 00:18:44,630 --> 00:18:42,900 over whatsoever and it has that that has 459 00:18:46,190 --> 00:18:44,640 to be lockdown at any and all cost 460 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:46,200 because as soon as you release that as 461 00:18:50,270 --> 00:18:47,610 soon as Gummer comes out the FBI knows 462 00:18:51,290 --> 00:18:50,280 about this the Green Berets damn sure 463 00:18:54,020 --> 00:18:51,300 know about this 464 00:18:55,610 --> 00:18:54,030 the government knows about this as soon 465 00:18:57,920 --> 00:18:55,620 as they release this information say by 466 00:19:01,210 --> 00:18:57,930 the way if you go to the woods you might 467 00:19:03,860 --> 00:19:01,220 get [\h__\h] to death they can't say that 468 00:19:05,510 --> 00:19:03,870 that would be a big off to going to 469 00:19:08,150 --> 00:19:05,520 state parks that would be a big turn 470 00:19:11,330 --> 00:19:08,160 down in people going to state parks and 471 00:19:12,740 --> 00:19:11,340 especially if it's expected that there's 472 00:19:14,750 --> 00:19:12,750 a certain amount of people have to go 473 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:14,760 into those state parks in order to keep 474 00:19:23,390 --> 00:19:20,210 the people fed um you can't do that oh 475 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:23,400 let's let's let's let's examine this and 476 00:19:27,410 --> 00:19:25,890 maybe go back a little bit to the 477 00:19:29,930 --> 00:19:27,420 WikiLeaks we talked about there's a wiki 478 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:29,940 leak that a clown baby shared I think he 479 00:19:34,490 --> 00:19:31,490 shared it in the public chat where 480 00:19:36,590 --> 00:19:34,500 Podesta is talking about or there's 481 00:19:38,750 --> 00:19:36,600 somebody's emailing Podesta about the 482 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:38,760 deals that have been made with the 483 00:19:43,460 --> 00:19:42,210 aliens and this guy from Canada he wants 484 00:19:44,630 --> 00:19:43,470 in on it he wants to know what those 485 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:44,640 deals are it does 486 00:19:47,570 --> 00:19:46,170 want to get screwed again because 487 00:19:50,660 --> 00:19:47,580 Canada's got a better space probe 488 00:19:53,210 --> 00:19:50,670 program at this point and so does this 489 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:53,220 at all tie together like our is it an 490 00:20:00,860 --> 00:19:56,970 alien or a like a it's a it's an 491 00:20:02,930 --> 00:20:00,870 offworld power that's using us as an 492 00:20:06,110 --> 00:20:02,940 amusement park I hate to bring it 493 00:20:09,590 --> 00:20:06,120 back.this and either myself saying this 494 00:20:11,060 --> 00:20:09,600 so I delve into these topics like that 495 00:20:13,460 --> 00:20:11,070 last episode I talked about the seeker 496 00:20:15,890 --> 00:20:13,470 space program in one of the most 497 00:20:22,190 --> 00:20:15,900 profitable industries is the Galactic 498 00:20:26,060 --> 00:20:22,200 slave space trade Atlanta is the biggest 499 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:26,070 Airport hub for sex slaves and humans 500 00:20:30,710 --> 00:20:27,810 and trafficking we just think about what 501 00:20:32,360 --> 00:20:30,720 happens at really the Denver Airport the 502 00:20:34,550 --> 00:20:32,370 Denver Airport with all the Illuminati 503 00:20:37,340 --> 00:20:34,560 symbols going out there I've been there 504 00:20:39,380 --> 00:20:37,350 I'm so high um I was like twelve so I 505 00:20:42,770 --> 00:20:39,390 didn't really you know if you go down 506 00:20:46,070 --> 00:20:42,780 that route and I'm completely willing to 507 00:20:54,020 --> 00:20:46,080 do so because no one else is it seems as 508 00:20:57,110 --> 00:20:54,030 though that we are we are cattle for 509 00:21:00,080 --> 00:20:57,120 somebody else because there's no cuz 510 00:21:01,580 --> 00:21:00,090 what has do you tell me no hunters been 511 00:21:03,850 --> 00:21:01,590 able to take down a Bigfoot in all these 512 00:21:06,260 --> 00:21:03,860 [\h__\h] years with with a 12-gauge 513 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:06,270 especially when you have Sega's out 514 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:08,490 there they can do multiple shots don't 515 00:21:11,450 --> 00:21:10,050 [\h__\h] buy it they would've been taken 516 00:21:13,460 --> 00:21:11,460 down one of them would have been taken 517 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:13,470 down by now you would least have one 518 00:21:18,650 --> 00:21:16,530 Bigfoot body next to a very injured and 519 00:21:20,930 --> 00:21:18,660 dying person who managed to shoot this 520 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:20,940 creature has not happened we're talking 521 00:21:26,990 --> 00:21:23,850 about some pretty high-tech technology 522 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:27,000 being able to manipulate [\h__\h] these 523 00:21:30,980 --> 00:21:28,650 people to death and then make it look 524 00:21:32,120 --> 00:21:30,990 like they died by natural causes and 525 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:32,130 then being able to manipulate the 526 00:21:37,100 --> 00:21:34,650 weather so these bodies are covered and 527 00:21:39,230 --> 00:21:37,110 very hard to retrieve so maybe did you 528 00:21:42,170 --> 00:21:39,240 see any cattle mutilation I haven't even 529 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:42,180 touched on that at all yeah I think I 530 00:21:44,300 --> 00:21:43,290 thought you thought I heard you mention 531 00:21:45,530 --> 00:21:44,310 it but not but it kind of makes sense 532 00:21:47,630 --> 00:21:45,540 with the cattle mutilation where they 533 00:21:49,700 --> 00:21:47,640 just do whatever they want the cows and 534 00:21:51,410 --> 00:21:49,710 just dump them back in the ranch yeah I 535 00:21:53,420 --> 00:21:51,420 mean if they're aliens and they're not 536 00:21:55,100 --> 00:21:53,430 even human and they just like [\h__\h] 537 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:55,110 things like what if their planetary 538 00:22:01,730 --> 00:21:57,330 species that just [\h__\h] things to death 539 00:22:04,580 --> 00:22:01,740 see they let say independence day 3 I'm 540 00:22:06,140 --> 00:22:04,590 not even that is so plausible because 541 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:06,150 I've read I've read so many horrific 542 00:22:11,210 --> 00:22:08,010 stories of what humans have done to 543 00:22:13,550 --> 00:22:11,220 other humans of you you've read stories 544 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:13,560 like that where they leave a kid locked 545 00:22:18,500 --> 00:22:15,930 up at a closet for years and they [\h__\h] 546 00:22:23,140 --> 00:22:18,510 it in a torture of this kid and they're 547 00:22:27,050 --> 00:22:23,150 evil evil people two small children 548 00:22:29,300 --> 00:22:27,060 humans do this consider what it a higher 549 00:22:32,330 --> 00:22:29,310 intelligence with more technology it 550 00:22:37,010 --> 00:22:32,340 would be willing to do to us stupid 551 00:22:39,650 --> 00:22:37,020 [\h__\h] apes yeah Rick house yeah they 552 00:22:41,390 --> 00:22:39,660 could totally go for some [\h__\h] 553 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:41,400 playground for them where they can just 554 00:22:50,300 --> 00:22:43,410 [\h__\h] us to death and leave us to die so 555 00:22:52,190 --> 00:22:50,310 [\h__\h] be it out in the woods sounds 556 00:22:56,090 --> 00:22:52,200 pretty hot so I'm sorry to be so graphic 557 00:22:58,430 --> 00:22:56,100 about it but that is I think that's just 558 00:23:02,290 --> 00:22:58,440 of it I think that I think that's what's 559 00:23:04,910 --> 00:23:02,300 going on here case closed everybody um 560 00:23:06,740 --> 00:23:04,920 on one it's I don't think it's Bigfoot 561 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:06,750 doing this because like I said I think a 562 00:23:13,340 --> 00:23:08,690 bit a Bigfoot Ward a big shot by now 563 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:13,350 yeah it's definitely foreign powers 564 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:14,970 especially with his hunter book I 565 00:23:17,750 --> 00:23:16,410 haven't received the yet but I'm 566 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:17,760 assuming clown baby but you probably 567 00:23:21,470 --> 00:23:19,410 perused and we probably would have heard 568 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:21,480 about on some of the sites we visit that 569 00:23:28,340 --> 00:23:25,650 Bigfoot was felled by Hunter and this 570 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:28,350 hunter found him or was found near this 571 00:23:35,810 --> 00:23:30,690 dead Bigfoot body I haven't read the 572 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:35,820 story no um I mean there's some big 573 00:23:39,170 --> 00:23:37,170 thing there's that one hoax I think 574 00:23:40,580 --> 00:23:39,180 maybe was in Georgia the guy had Bigfoot 575 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:40,590 body in the freezer night turned out 576 00:23:44,630 --> 00:23:42,930 just to be like roadkill of like some 577 00:23:47,090 --> 00:23:44,640 possums and raccoons that he flipped 578 00:23:49,220 --> 00:23:47,100 frozen dies so what are we here what are 579 00:23:51,740 --> 00:23:49,230 we here on the missing four one one tape 580 00:23:54,770 --> 00:23:51,750 we heard a guy screaming yeah and being 581 00:23:57,380 --> 00:23:54,780 taken away and then six days later dead 582 00:23:59,540 --> 00:23:57,390 with a high amount of GHB his system 583 00:24:03,980 --> 00:23:59,550 floating uh I think a ponder floating in 584 00:24:06,710 --> 00:24:03,990 a river and the guy in during his GHB 585 00:24:08,360 --> 00:24:06,720 experience and completely paralyzed they 586 00:24:11,110 --> 00:24:08,370 can do anything they want with them and 587 00:24:13,430 --> 00:24:11,120 just leave them to die 588 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:13,440 that's it I think there were some kind 589 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:15,690 of deals truck and this is the price 590 00:24:20,120 --> 00:24:17,850 we're paying the price right now I think 591 00:24:21,980 --> 00:24:20,130 it's the bills Bill Cosby and Bill 592 00:24:25,159 --> 00:24:21,990 Clinton it's the BCS they're running 593 00:24:27,049 --> 00:24:25,169 around I don't know for Taoiseach if 594 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:27,059 Barack Obama's teleporting with this 595 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:28,770 presidential candidate we're talking 596 00:24:31,010 --> 00:24:29,010 about 597 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:31,020 he's on Mars and all this other stuff 598 00:24:35,510 --> 00:24:33,090 then why in the hell wouldn't Bill 599 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:35,520 Clinton and Bill Cosby team up to just 600 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:37,650 [\h__\h] things to death all over the world 601 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:39,570 they might not have the power as I 602 00:24:43,730 --> 00:24:41,850 talked about with the Mars colony 603 00:24:45,620 --> 00:24:43,740 is that they're probably working for 604 00:24:48,289 --> 00:24:45,630 somebody else and they have a very tight 605 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:48,299 grip on what people do up there in Mars 606 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:50,490 Mars colony they're miners up there and 607 00:24:57,049 --> 00:24:52,770 we're humans and yet we're part of an 608 00:24:58,940 --> 00:24:57,059 intergalactic consortium but there are 609 00:25:01,610 --> 00:24:58,950 more powerful beings out there according 610 00:25:03,799 --> 00:25:01,620 to the secret space program book that I 611 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:03,809 write so we're gonna go down a trout 612 00:25:08,270 --> 00:25:06,450 which I'm completely willing to you got 613 00:25:10,310 --> 00:25:08,280 it you have to do it with it with these 614 00:25:12,220 --> 00:25:10,320 missing four we've read so many cases 615 00:25:14,810 --> 00:25:12,230 like this it's getting is getting 616 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:14,820 frustrating at this point and I can only 617 00:25:20,450 --> 00:25:18,450 imagine how David playas feels as the 618 00:25:22,039 --> 00:25:20,460 skeptic I I will say that the missing 619 00:25:23,330 --> 00:25:22,049 four oh and one stop especially when we 620 00:25:27,340 --> 00:25:23,340 played the call and everything else like 621 00:25:29,659 --> 00:25:27,350 that stuff is so fascinating to me 622 00:25:32,330 --> 00:25:29,669 there's so many coincidences that you 623 00:25:34,250 --> 00:25:32,340 have to at certain point go just there's 624 00:25:37,070 --> 00:25:34,260 something up here it's getting 625 00:25:38,590 --> 00:25:37,080 frustrating at this point and I can only 626 00:25:41,090 --> 00:25:38,600 imagine how he feels 627 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:41,100 where is he why isn't he on the show yet 628 00:25:47,690 --> 00:25:42,570 you won't do this we talked about porn 629 00:25:49,610 --> 00:25:47,700 too much oh you reach out to them at all 630 00:25:51,260 --> 00:25:49,620 no we probably should hit some headlines 631 00:25:53,409 --> 00:25:51,270 here before we get out of here let's do 632 00:26:00,790 --> 00:25:53,419 it